*********** 1800 Series

[Lyle Borders]

Bicycle 1800 Series from ***********



Overall - 6/10
Stock - 5/10
Finish - 5/10 (Air Cushion)
Durability - 4/10
Design - 8/10
Magic - 7/10
XCM - 5/10

Lets start positive. These cards are insane. You look at them sitting on the table. You KNOW they are brand new, but you can just tell that they are going to feel nasty and old and work. The artwork will fool anyone. As soon as you pick these cards up, expect to find everything feeling just like a normal deck of Bikes. These are the only *********** cards availiable right now that lack the fancy thick card stock and the UV500 Airflow finish. *********** opted to print these cards on standard Bike stock with the standard Air Cushion finish. These cards are merely a fantastic looking Bicycle deck.

If you flourish, they will handle, imagine this, just like Bikes! They work generically well for just about everything, but not amazing for anything. The design might be a bit of a downfall though, as the sharp images that make for great looking flourishing are just not present.

For the right kinds of magic trick, these cards are a must have. Example - D+M's heritage. The principal is that you carry around 4 cards from your great grandfathers winning poker hand years and years ago, and you want the spec to complete the hand without looking at the 4 cards or the card they will pick to complete the hand. Fantastic effect with regular cards. If you pull 1800's out for just the 4 cards, the effect gains an indescribable aura of mysticism and truth. They are seeing cards as old as your great grandfather. You really have them. It's real. When they complete your hand by just a "gut feeling" they KNOW that they were influenced by the spirit of your great grandfather or something. If used wisely, these cards are worth their weight in gold.

Now, on to the one real negative I have with these. Durability. I killed these cards in only an hour and a half at work. I was bored while I was supposed to be selling clothing at a department store, so I pulled these out and was practicing my favorite false cut. These cards, even though I had clean hands, couldn't take much, and are now only good for simple magic tricks that don't involve flourishing and card control. On the other hand, an E-deck goes with me 24/7, I play with it all the time, and after a few weeks it is still functioning to one degree or another.

IMO - Get one. Use it. Just don't play with it. Make it an accent deck to add to your arsenal for when the right trick calls, else keep it pretty at home.

[jl69187]

I love the deck, one of my favorites

[lklabelle]

they look a little bit facke

[Jade Ferrer]

It looks cool. especially when you use this for haunted deck trick. haha. gives more convincer.

[Sam Hindrichs]

once I make my gimmick for steve fearson's legend, that's what I plan on doing, is making it seem like the deck belonged to a wild west poker player who was killed in a game of poker and the person who killed him decided to steal his deck of cards (the 1800's) so the poker player haunted the deck and whatever. I haven't thought out all of the patter yet. Ithink it would work well. As soon as Seeker is on tinychat again I will make my gimmick.

[The_Outlaw]

I love these cards. They don't fan very well, but 'old cards' are not supposed to fan well right!?
I took a lighter to the 'inside' of the card box and inside flap to enhance the appearance.
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Originally Posted by Sam Hindrichs

once I make my gimmick for steve fearson's legend, that's what I plan on doing, is making it seem like the deck belonged to a wild west poker player who was killed in a game of poker and the person who killed him decided to steal his deck of cards (the 1800's) so the poker player haunted the deck and whatever. I haven't thought out all of the patter yet. Ithink it would work well. As soon as Seeker is on tinychat again I will make my gimmick.

I am digging on that idea for some excellent patter with these cards. Right on man.

[cardchangerghost]

Honestly I think these cards are useless except for certain tricks

[eostresh]

These suck beyond the suckieness of possible sucky cards.....hrmm....well I guess Massas suck pretty bad too.

[Lyle Borders]

I wouldn't say that by any stretch of the imagination. They are printed with identical stock and finish to regular Bikes. That makes them mediocre, not necessarily terrible. I think the idea that they don't last long is a combination of their looks and the less-than-ideal treatment we give them because of it.

Massas are, well, special. They are unique. Not my favorite, but not on my crap list. I have handled MANY decks I would consider far worse than Massas.


IMO.

L

[eostresh]

Originally Posted by Lyle Borders

I wouldn't say that by any stretch of the imagination. They are printed with identical stock and finish to regular Bikes. That makes them mediocre, not necessarily terrible. I think the idea that they don't last long is a combination of their looks and the less-than-ideal treatment we give them because of it.

Massas are, well, special. They are unique. Not my favorite, but not on my crap list. I have handled MANY decks I would consider far worse than Massas.


IMO.

L

I honestly think there may have been different runs on this card. I'll agree on the stock but the finish....Honestly if felt like they forgot to add one....and that mey be exactly what happened? They fanned worse OOB than Anglos after two weeks. That comming from a guy who doesn't get hung up on the fan. I know about 1/2 the posts I have heard about this deck have had the same comments leading me to wonder if there wasn't a large batch that got "botched." I'm glad yours worked for you. I really like the "look" and would love to see a Richard Turner version of this deck.

As to the Massas...LOL In truth I was half joking. There will probably be a lot of people who like them. I'll stand by my opinions in my review, though I won't stand by my statements when I'm being a smart a$$. I too have handled much worse cards though of the ones I have taken the time to review those, and the Anglo Pokers(as much as I love the Rug backs I hate the poker editions) are on the bottom of my list.

[snowguy2068]

they look fantastic
anyone know where to get them around malaysia?