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Old 03-21-2008, 10:32 AM   #1 (permalink)
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So what do you think about this?

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I think it will be release on the dangerous DVD but i cant figure out how he does that. Any ideas?

Tell me your opinions!
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OMG this is hurting my brain lol ive tried do sstuff in front of my mirror but nothing looks that clean im gonna be mad if all he does is drop it lol
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Its not going to be released in dangerous, thats what I heard, its going to be released in 2009
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http://www.danielmadison.co.uk/Change.htm

There you go.
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No wai. Imo the talking doesn't proove a shit. I'm quite a bit knowledgable on that topic and it's an easy matter to do that little edit!

Just have a look at the fingerplacement and the positioning of the card. There is no f..... way he could move his fingers so fast, that no one sees the Action happening. I analyzed it. The whole action happens in one single frame that means 1/25 second - this guy is actually kidding us....

I don't think this will be a great effect. And he can't stick to his promises: That means it's either a gimmick or something impossible. Most likely it's even very bad angled or needs specific performance condition as a table to drop/lap it under etc.

I don't like madison's style of presentation too much. The editing of his videos sucks as well. It's up to you but I don't believe that oddball.
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Dude, this is the spoof version he made to put everyone off and reduce the hype. He says it in the link Checking... provided. He will release it in a project called CHANGE which will feature 6 color changes in total. Hopefully it will be released this year.
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No wai. Imo the talking doesn't proove a shit. I'm quite a bit knowledgable on that topic and it's an easy matter to do that little edit!

Just have a look at the fingerplacement and the positioning of the card. There is no f..... way he could move his fingers so fast, that no one sees the Action happening. I analyzed it. The whole action happens in one single frame that means 1/25 second - this guy is actually kidding us....

I don't think this will be a great effect. And he can't stick to his promises: That means it's either a gimmick or something impossible. Most likely it's even very bad angled or needs specific performance condition as a table to drop/lap it under etc.

I don't like madison's style of presentation too much. The editing of his videos sucks as well. It's up to you but I don't believe that oddball.
Well I don't like his style that much neither, black & white, and all this "mysterious", but I own some of his products and he has some very good ideas, but "Change" is over-the-top, the opinions split at this trick. Even some of his "fans" are spectical about this, and this has to mean something.

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No wai. Imo the talking doesn't proove a shit. I'm quite a bit knowledgable on that topic and it's an easy matter to do that little edit!

Just have a look at the fingerplacement and the positioning of the card. There is no f..... way he could move his fingers so fast, that no one sees the Action happening. I analyzed it. The whole action happens in one single frame that means 1/25 second - this guy is actually kidding us....

I don't think this will be a great effect. And he can't stick to his promises: That means it's either a gimmick or something impossible. Most likely it's even very bad angled or needs specific performance condition as a table to drop/lap it under etc.

I don't like madison's style of presentation too much. The editing of his videos sucks as well. It's up to you but I don't believe that oddball.
Have you heard about the Luke Jermay story? He produced The Coral Fang, and no magicians beleived any of the effects could be done ever. He got so much crap about it using stooges, being fake, using editing and w/e. But he could do this all real time for anyone he wanted...before we assume that this is completely fake...give beleif a chance...

Edit:

Okay, I have an okay guess as to how he does this...

He makes that flappy card thingy that you all are thinking that he is using...so when the flap is on one side its the jack, the other is the king okay? Okay, the flap is hooked up to a string, which is anchored into his front pocket...when he pulls his hand far enough away, it pulls away the slack on the flap, thus pulling the flap to reveal the king. Its done fast enough in front of their face, because the motion is so fast...

This probably isnt the exact handling, but I dont care, still pretty good
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Video editing or a flap. And I'm choosing flap. A nicely made gimmicked card.

Btw you can check people doing their version of CHANGE here:

http://www.danielmadison.co.uk/Change.htm
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Video editing or a flap. And I'm choosing flap. A nicely made gimmicked card.

Btw you can check people doing their version of CHANGE here:

http://www.danielmadison.co.uk/Change.htm
Everyone seriously has to wipe "video editing" from their heads. If he is going to release and sell this, I dont think he'd use a video edit.
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LOL! Maybe he gives you video editing software so you can "do" the change...
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LOL! Maybe he gives you video editing software so you can "do" the change...
Hahah! that would be hilarious!
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LOL! Maybe he gives you video editing software so you can "do" the change...
LOL! but in all honesty, if you read any of daniel madisons material, you ll know that his effects are ALWAYS extremely clever. his Irreversable effect is GENIUS. this guy has a talent for thinking "outside the box", and im sure on this effect hes done the same. he wouldnt have shown this video almost a year ago, and let SOO much hype build around it if it was something impractical. maybe its just me, but i bet when this effect is released, that its going to be VERY clever and practical.
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This supposed to be gimmickless, two cards are in use, and the change can be downe with any two cards from any deck...

Umhm... Yeah....

I hope I'm wrong and it's a killer method behind it!
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This supposed to be gimmickless, two cards are in use, and the change can be downe with any two cards from any deck...

Umhm... Yeah....

I hope I'm wrong and it's a killer method behind it!

Its DM, of course there will. But still, he says there are 2 versions, gimmicked an non gimmicked. And of course...for a preview he's gonna perform the beter effect, so he prolly used the gimmick version...
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